Interview with Shayne Ward & Sophie Austin

Interview with Shayne Ward & Sophie Austin

Interview: Shayne Ward & Sophie Austin

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“…going away and not seeing my daughter or my newborn son, it was very tough!.”–  Shayne Ward

Most of us remember Shayne Ward’s rise to fame clearly, as X-Factor fever swept the nation. Shayne became a heartthrob overnight and his debut single ‘That’s my goal’ was released on the 21st December 2005 and became the Christmas number one. The hit single sold 313,000 copies on the first day of sales, making it the third fastest selling single in the UK of all time. His debut album also topped the charts in 2006, and went 4x platinum in the UK and Ireland. Nine years after becoming a household name through his music career, Shayne joined one of Britain’s most loved soap operas, becoming Coronation Street’s Aiden Connor.

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Shayne Ward and Sophie Austin

Shayne Ward, Sophie Austin and their children by Tom Pitfield © BROOD Magazine

Shayne Ward and Sophie Austin

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It was during his time on Coronation Street that Shayne met Sophie Austin, an actress who was playing Lindsey Butterfield in Hollyoaks at the time.The couple had a whirlwind romance and welcomed their first child, daughter Willow May in December 2016, and then announced their engagement in 2017. Sophie had just announced that she was going to leave Hollyoaks, finding out shortly after that she was expecting the couple’s first child, so she was unsure as to what this would mean for her career, but she still went on to star in ITV’s Tina and Bobby, Call The Midwife and Casualty. After a long and emotional journey to add a second baby to their family, the couple were blessed with their beautiful boy, Reign. Only 6 weeks after Reign was born, Shayne was offered a career opportunity that was too good to miss, playing the lead role in Channel 5’s The Good Ship Murder, but it meant that he had to film abroad for 3 months; with a new baby, a 5 year old and University studies Sophie had to juggle like never before, so with Shayne soon to embark on filming the second season abroad we sat down with the lovely Shayne and Sophie, to talk all about all things parenthood, career and their lovely family. 

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At what point in your career did you become parents and did it affect your career at all?  

Sophie – “I fell pregnant as I was leaving Hollyoaks. I’d decided to leave Hollyoaks because I wanted to do loads of other things and then I found out that I was pregnant! It sounds awful but at the time I thought well that’s it, I’m not going to be able to progress from here for a while. But my agent was brilliant and got me two jobs really early on in my pregnancy so actually I worked throughout my pregnancy.

Shayne – “So I was working at Coronation Street, and I met the lovely Sophie – and we know how that goes! [We laugh] No, but honestly it was the best feeling in the world, but it was also scary at the same time. I think just experiencing such a wide range of emotions because you know from that moment that it would change both of our lives forever. This little miracle came into our lives and now she’s eight.”

Sophie – “No she’s not eight, she’s seven, Shayne!” [We laugh as Shayne pauses and thinks for a moment] 

Shayne – “Yeah. she’s eight this year.’ 

Sophie – “She’s just turned seven”

Shayne- “You didn’t let me finish, I was going to say she’s eight this year…” 

Sophie – “In December” [We continue to laugh]

Shayne – “This is real-life couples y’all! The best thing is you actually do find yourself going – how old is she?”    

And how different has it been since Reign has come along?

Shayne – “There’s a big difference!” [They both laugh] “He’s just a little wreck it Reign!” 

 

Sophie – “Willow would come along to jobs quite a lot, when she was a baby, we could just take her anywhere, but he would cause havoc!”

Shayne – “He’s just a little ball of energy, he’s really strong too! He is an absolute joy though”  

Sophie – “And also workwise for me, a lot of it is to do with the fact that Shayne goes away a lot. And I have a lot of anxiety when I leave them and even though there are still lots of things that I would love to do, my attitude is that – maybe not right now but it will happen in the future. I feel a bit mixed with it at the moment, because there is so much I would love to do, so there’s that battle of wanting to do it, but the need to always have one of us at home.

 

How did Willow find becoming a big sister?

Shayne – “The bond between them is incredible. You do worry about what the oldest child is going to feel about the second coming along. Worrying that we’re not paying her enough attention. But, Willow instantly got it. Of course every now and again she had moments where you could see she was missing her time with just us, or her and mummy time, you know, but overall she loves being a big sister and watching them together is amazing!”

What has been the most challenging time that you have gone through since becoming a parent”

Sophie – “The most challenging time has to be when Reign was 6 weeks old and Shayne left for 3 months [Shayne’s face makes us all laugh]…to do the show.”

Shayne – ‘It’s the way she words it, ‘Reign was born, and Shayne left!’ [We all laugh] 

Sophie – “I still replay that scenario. I was sitting on the couch, breastfeeding Reign and Shayne comes in and says I‘ve got an audition, but don’t worry they don’t start filming until November – this was in the June – and then he comes back in and says, ‘Oh no, sorry, it’s filming until November’ And I said, ‘well when are you flying?’ And he said, ‘Next week!’ I don’t think I spoke to him for 24 hours, purely because I was in shock. Then of course I realised it was an amazing opportunity, but having just had a baby, that was definitely the most challenging time.”

Shayne – “For me, it was being on the receiving end of that! That was very challenging!” [We laugh] “No, but it was scary and obviously I was heartbroken as well, as for me going away and not seeing my daughter or my newborn son, it was very tough. Being in a country and not seeing them every day, as silly as it sounds I kept worrying that they might not remember me.”

Shayne Ward and his daughter Willow
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As you’re going away filming The Good Ship Murder again this year Shayne, how are you both feeling about it and have you put anything in place based on what you learnt the first time around? 

Shayne – “I hate being away from my kids, but knowing that I have to do it – I have to keep a roof over our heads, it’s just part and parcel of being in this industry, but I know I’m going to really, really miss them.” 

Sophie – “I think it will be harder for you this time” 

Shayne – “Yeah, it will be harder for me this time because my son is a lot and I’m used to spending every day with him. I have this amazing bond with him, just like I have with Willow”

Sophie – “Willow understands a bit more though doesn’t she?” 

Shayne – “Yeah, Willow understands, but for the little man, Reign, he’s not going to understand, god bless him and that kind of sits on my mind a lot. There’s no doubt about it, I’m sure I’ll have a few cries while I’m out there filming, but I think the positives of this time around is that we’ve had the experience from the first season, so we’ve already started planning and putting things in place for while I’m away.”

Sophie – “Yeah, I think this time is totally different, as Reign was only 6 weeks old the first time, so I wasn’t totally with it [she laughs] but this time around I feel a lot more in control and obviously there’s a bit more time to plan. Obviously, I’m not from up north, so all my family are down south, but they are all really good and they do rally round and my friends have done a rota for each weekend – so I just have to get through the week! [she laughs] Reign will eventually start nursery too for a couple of days, which will be amazing and allow me a chance to get a bit of order. But I think I’m just going to go into it, half expecting to fly by the seat of my pants, but also trying to have a bit more of a positive attitude about it than I had the first time around. I do think Reign will find it hard not having Shayne here, and of course, even though Willow understands it’s still hard for her too, but I’m trying to explain that it will be different to last time, as obviously last time a new baby came and then Daddy went away, but this time it’s going to be ok – I think [She laughs nervously]  ”           

What is your favourite thing about being a parent?    

Shayne “My favourite thing about being a parent, without sounding too cliche, is exactly that, I just love being a dad. Everytime I hear my little girl saying ‘Daddy’ it just warms my heart and now I have a son, too and he’s saying ‘Daddy’ and honestly there’s just so many reasons why I love being a parent, there’s too many to name.”

Sophie – “I think my favourite thing about being a parent is getting to see the world again in a different light. You get to see the magic it holds, and all the adventures that you can have and the positivity that it has. I feel really grateful to witness the world again through their eyes because sometimes as adults you get so bogged down with stuff and negative thoughts you don’t always notice those positives. And there’s no judgement with little kids.”

“When you think of how excited Willow gets when we go on our adventures. We call them the Ward adventures” 

Shayne – “Yeah, we do this thing where we all put our hands in the middle and put our hands on top of each other and say, ‘Waaaarrrd Adventures!’ 

Sophie – “Yeah, you see that excitement and I think it’s just nice to experience that again!”

Shayne – “Oh, and of course being woken up at 3 am in the morning!” [We laugh]

Being a parent comes with constant pressures, what do you feel is the biggest pressure that you’ve felt since becoming a parent and does that pressure come from yourself or society?  

Sophie“I think the biggest pressure I feel is to always get things right. I also feel a lot of pressure to make sure that my kids are happy all the time and try and navigate hard situations for them, but I’m starting to learn that I can’t do that all the time. That it’s part of their journey, especially with Willow as she’s getting older and things she’s coming across at school, like friendship dynamics and her expectations of herself. I’ve always wanted to try and fix things, but I realise that I can’t do that all the time and I find that really hard – I think that is just pressure that I put on myself. And obviously allowing her to have those big emotions and allowing her to be upset, learning that it’s ok for her to go through things and to be upset is hard. I think especially as a Mum, (I’m not sure if Dad’s feel this way), but I think Mum’s definitely put themselves under pressure within society, and a lot of the time we think we don’t, but we do. I remember with Willow making sure she only ate everything Organic and that she had every gadget and worrying – was she walking at the right time? Was she meeting all the milestones? But since Reign has come along I’ve realised that they all develop in their own time, and that my kids are happy and healthy and that is all that matters. That if they eat something other than some steamed veg and some organic milk, then that’s ok. What’s your biggest pressure? [She turns to Shayne]

Shayne – “That’s pretty much the answer. I think that it’s just because we stress because we want to be the best parents that we can be and we just want them to feel loved and protected. That they know they can come to us at any time at any place. I think being aware of how fast time goes too, and not wanting to wish time away is a pressure too.”

Sophie – “I think social media adds to the pressure too, that wasn’t around years ago, but now you can feel like you’ve got to keep up with things. I find that a pressure and I catch myself thinking, ‘I should be doing that.’ ‘I should be doing this’ 

Sophie you’re currently studying, how have you found juggling parenthood around your studies and what do you do to keep yourself motivated to keep going? 

Sophie – “I’ve always been interested in counselling, especially person centred counselling and the reason why I finally decided to start at Uni was purely because, it was taking a bit longer to fall pregnant with our second and I needed something to give me a bit of sanity around that time, as it was quite a tough time. So. I thought now is the perfect time to start this, Willow was starting school. And I loved it, and I was good at it. So I’m in my third year and I think the thing that keeps me going is – well first of all when I start something I find it really hard to stop! But I think what’s kept me motivated is that I actually really love Willow seeing me studying. I go every Thursday and she says, ‘Are you going to college Mummy?’ and the fact she sees me as an older person, not saying I’m old, but I mean as an adult she’s seeing me going learning something new and gaining knowledge, and I love that she sees that, and I love the fact that she’s proud of me. I also think a lot of my motivation just comes from the fact that I love it and that I enjoy it. I do find it hard juggling though, especially as Reign is not in a nursery and Shayne can be away at times working, but I just try and make it work. We don’t really have a lot of childcare up here, so we just try and muddle between the two of us and my mum comes up [from down south] to help which is great.”

 

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    Divorce can be a challenging and emotionally turbulent time for all involved, especially for children who may struggle to understand and cope with the changes happening in their family dynamics. As a family lawyer at JMW, I’ve witness firsthand how parents sometimes struggle to navigate their children through these changes. However, I’ve also seen how parents can make a significant difference by providing the right support and guidance. Here are some tips to help parents navigate divorce while prioritizing their children’s wellbeing:

     

    Open and Honest Communication:

    One of the most important aspects of supporting your children through divorce is maintaining open and honest communication. It’s crucial to create a safe space where your children feel comfortable expressing their thoughts, feelings, and concerns. Encourage them to ask questions and assure them that their feelings are valid and respected.

    Be prepared to have age-appropriate conversations about the divorce, providing them with information that helps them understand the situation without burdening them with unnecessary details. This part is crucial. There are some things that your children needn’t be privy too. Whether that may be because isn’t age appropriate or perhaps the  Reassure them that the divorce is not their fault and that both parents will continue to love and support them.

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      Consistency and Routine:

      During times of uncertainty, such as divorce, children crave stability and routine. As much as possible, try to maintain a sense of consistency in their daily lives. Stick to regular routines for meals, bedtime, and other activities to provide a sense of security and predictability. This will help your children but the routine along with prioritising. 

      Additionally, strive to maintain consistency in co-parenting arrangements to minimize disruption and confusion for your children. Collaborate with your ex-partner to establish clear schedules and guidelines for visitation, custody, and other parental responsibilities. Consistent and predictable routines can help alleviate anxiety and reassure your children that they are still cared for and supported.

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      Emotional Support and Validation:

      Divorce can stir up a whirlwind of emotions for both parents and children alike. It’s essential to acknowledge and validate your children’s feelings, even if they may be difficult or painful to hear. Let them know that it’s okay to feel sad, angry, confused, or upset about the divorce.

      Provide emotional support by actively listening to their concerns, offering comfort and reassurance, and validating their experiences. Encourage healthy outlets for expressing emotions, such as journaling, drawing, or talking to a trusted friend or family member. Let your children know that you’re there for them every step of the way, ready to listen and support them through this challenging time.

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      Minimize Conflict and Put Your Children First:

      Perhaps the most critical tip for supporting your children during divorce is to prioritize their well-being above all else. While it’s natural to experience heightened emotions and disagreements during divorce proceedings, it’s essential to minimize conflict and maintain a cooperative co-parenting relationship. Apps such as OurFamilyWizard can help with his.

      Avoid arguing or speaking negatively about your ex-partner in front of your children, as this can cause them additional stress and confusion. Instead, focus on fostering a positive and respectful co-parenting dynamic, where both parents work together to make decisions in the best interests of their children. A word to the wise, the courts do not look favourably upon those who show clear signs of parental alienation.

      Remember that your actions and attitudes during this time will leave a lasting impact on your children. By prioritizing their needs, providing emotional support, and maintaining consistency and open communication, you can help your children navigate the challenges of divorce with resilience and strength. With patience, understanding, and love,

      Guide them through this transition and show them that they are not alone. Divorce may be a difficult chapter in your family’s story, but with the right support and approach, you can help your children emerge stronger and more resilient than ever before.

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      We were honestly blown away throughout our journey round Jurassic World and it truly was an incredible experience for the whole family. 

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      Following an initial launch in Melbourne, Australia,Jurassic World: The Exhibition, one of the fastest selling exhibitions in history since its launch, has become a global success with over eight million visitors. The exhibition has opened its gates to excited fans in numerous cities around the world such as Sydney, Toronto, Houston, San Diego, Chicago, Paris, Shanghai, Cologne and Berlin.

      At the launch we spoke to Milan Rokic Executive Vice President for Neon Global – who are the producers of Jurassic World, to hear a little more about Jurassic World: The exhibition and its journey so far. 

      “Manchester is our 22nd city on our global tour and currently, we also have Jurassic World in Melbourne, Australia, and in Mexico City. We had taken this exhibition to London in 2022 and we’re looking at a return season to London in the foreseeable future, but we also would like to expand to the rest of the UK as well. 

      It’s a family experience, so it’s from the ages of five through to 95 to enjoy – you know. We’ve had all sorts of people come along, because this movie franchise has been around for 30 years, so we’ve all had different connections with it. But ultimately dinosaurs is something that everyone likes to connect with. So I think that bringing children along and seeing the joy in their face is what it’s all about. 

      We own an animatronics company in Nashville, Tennessee, so we create the dinosaurs there. And it takes a lot of work to put these together, and then to make it theatrical, because you want it to be close to what the movie experience is as well.” 

      And it was exactly that. We were fully invested in the experience and it’s hard not to get swept up into believing the dinosaurs are real! 

      If you’re looking a for great family trip this Summer, then make sure Jurassic World; The Exhibition is on your list. 

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      If the thought of ‘another thing’ to do sends you into entrepreneurial/parental spasms – you’re not alone.  Typically when I see the words ‘Ultimate Skincare Routine’ I think, ‘great, here’s something else to make me feel like I’m not on top of everything’ – am I right?

      My advice is different.  I promise.

      And to put your mind at rest I’m a professionally qualified skin aesthetician who works with an award winning micro-biologist recognised as one of the world’s leading experts in the science of reversing ageing. 

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      So let’s start with what you’re doing now.  For many of you – it’s too much – yes, that’s right, you can probably do less and achieve more (if younger, healthier functioning skin is what you are after).

      If you currently do absolutely nothing then this will start you on the right track.

      Unwittingly those of us who care for our appearance the most have fallen into a trap of accidentally ageing our skin faster.  Anything you do to your skin that causes damage or forces cell turnover is ageing your cells faster on a biological level.

      Turns out spending thousands on a course of laser treatments or micro-needling for example, will give you a short-medium term glow but at their core your cells have aged (it doesn’t actually ‘reveal’ younger skin, it reveals older skin cells that are inflamed and therefore look plumper).

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      It’s the same with products that promise to ‘increase cell turnover’, they forget to mention the part about the ‘new’ cells being older than the cells you just replaced and that old cells have diminished ability to produce collagen and elastin, the stuff that makes you look young. You are accidentally racing towards the appearance you were trying to avoid.

       

      We’ve heard the wrong advice for so many decades that no-one questions where it came from, it is certainly not following the science of how cells age, because cell division = ageing.  It’s so important to educate yourself on how your skin ages biologically because the skin industry is getting ‘better and better’ at damaging skin to reveal ‘younger’ skin.  Machines will literally combust cells with laser-focused heat, send thousands of holes per second into your skin and remove the first few layers of your epidermis.  The generation before us had none of these ‘advanced’ treatments being thrust on them, sadly we are the guinea pig volunteers being led to believe that more is more.

       

      I was contacted recently by an Australian actress who had seen one of my presentations and the penny had dropped for her.  She said ‘I’m 42 and my skin is crepey and unnaturally thin.  I’ve had over 30 laser treatments and now I understand it – my problem is absolutely that I’ve aged my skin faster’.  Marketing would have you think that after 30 laser treatments she would have the best skin of anyone, right?  Wrong.

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      Rachael D’Aguiar has been in the professional skin industry for over 20 years. She is an internationally qualified aesthetician who owned her own skincare clinic for over 10 years. She is the CEO and Founder of the One Truth 818 skincare range and a passionate advocate who educates on the science of ageing in order to stop outdated skin practices that damage the skin.

      If you are going out of your way and out of pocket to do treatments that cause inflammation and damage to your skin – stop them.  Your future self, your bank balance and your stress levels will thank you for it.

      Every time your cells divide your telomeres, found on the tips of your DNA to protect it, shorten a bit.  When they get too short the cell cannot divide and it dies.  These telomeres are quite literally the clock of ageing on our cells and they tick down with every cell division – approximately 50 divisions is all they get.  It’s really not something you want to speed up!  Cells can die (and nicely dispose of themselves) or transition into Senescent/Zombie cells, wreaking havoc and encouraging healthy cells to transition faster, it explains why people can look a little aged then all of a sudden very, very old.  Again, not something you want to encourage.

      The moral of the story is to aim to keep telomeres long for as long as possible.

       

      We’ve covered how to stop accidentally speeding up ageing (brilliant, you’ve already saved time, money and face!) now how about we get back to the Ultimate Skin Care Routine?  

       

      Cleansing.

      Cleansing will remove makeup and also remove toxins and debris that may have accumulated during the day, so a nighttime cleanse is vital, it also means that your evening skincare regime is reaching your skin and not sitting on dirt.  Opt for a cleanser that does not strip the skin.  Be aware if your cleanser has acids (AHA’s, BHA’s, glycolic, salicylic etc) they can be ok, but if your other leave-on products also contain acids and retinol you are probably over-exfoliating your skin on a daily basis. 

       

      Hydrating.

      Your skin may need oil, water or both.  The difference is that dry skin needs oil, a dehydrated skin needs water.  If your skin is flaky and rough to the touch it is probably dry – use an oil-based moisturiser (generally thicker feeling).  If your skin feels tight after cleansing (no – it’s not a good thing!) And has very fine lines stretched across it, it is likely dehydrated, its not retaining water.  Opt for a water-based moisturiser, a spritz/mist product will also be great for you.

      Dry skin and dehydrated skin can both lead to sensitive skin where tiny cracks form in the skin’s barrier and the skin gets irritated easily, so choose your moisturiser wisely. 

      Don’t know where your skin sits?  Go for a hydrating moisturiser first and see how you feel, if it’s not enough for your skin to feel plump and juicy grab a nice face oil and layer it over at night.  This can be something super affordable like a bottle of jojoba, grapeseed or rosehip oil from your local health shop as its job is to sit on the surface of your skin for protection and to soften the outer layers of your skin.

       

      Protecting.

      Leaving the shelter of your home exposes you to UV radiation.  Yes, we need vitamin D and the sun is a great source but we also need to be aware that UV rays can cause the skin to mutate leading to wrinkles and skin degradation at best, cancer is the worst case scenario.  If you are working to have your skin look younger and you don’t use SPF you will never achieve your goal.  Period.  Over exposure to UV rays will age you, many suggest a zero exposure tolerance but I question missing out on vitamin D altogether as it is vital.

       

      Want to do more for your skin? Great!  (No it’s not an expensive product or treatment that is going to cause damage…)

       

      Reduce Stress

      Stress has been shown to shorten telomeres faster and therefore will play a role in your skin looking older than you are.  Do something for yourself each day where you get to slow your heart rate and relax.  I know that harassed feeling of not being able to find time for that, so heck it might even just be your cleansing and moisturising routine!  If that is all the time you feel you can make for yourself then turn your cleanse into a 2-minute deep breathing massage.  Every deep breath counts.

       

      Stop Smoking

      Not only is smoking the fastest way to cleave off chunks of your telomeres and the number one cause of accelerated ageing of your skin cells from the inside, but on the outside the toxins in the smoke that your skin is exposed to cause free radicals, another contributor of accelerated ageing.  If you are a smoker there is no way around it, you’re going to age yourself and your appearance faster.  Please stop.

       

      Feed Your Skin

      There are supplements and nutrients that can extend telomere life and others that can make skin look younger. In terms of your skin, the longer the telomere the younger your skin (and all your cells actually).  A young skin produces collagen and elastin, has even balanced pigmentation and is strong, not sensitive.

      Omegas, whether from your diet or in supplement form, have been shown to be linked with longer telomeres as has a diet rich in antioxidants.

      Other supplements, like collagen and hyaluronic acid, can help fatten out what I call ‘the mattress’, of your skin – the structure under the surface.  The stronger and plumper this is the less likely skin will ‘fall’ in and become a wrinkle.  It also holds capillaries securely so they don’t weaken towards the surface of your skin causing a ruddy appearance.

       

      The Gold Standard Ultimate Skin Care Routine

      Is one where a telomerase activating product is used on the skin, this will release the enzyme telomerase that re-lengthens the skin’s telomeres – literally undoing the biological ageing process and making the cells young again.  In fact it is the only way to make a cell biologically younger again.

       

      Your life is already busy! 

      Step one of your New Ultimate Skin Routine: Ditch the stuff that is costing you precious time and money and that you now know is actually ageing you faster. (See, I promised you this advice was different and that you’d like this new routine, didn’t I?)  I’m serious, even if you’re half-way through – cancel that course of facial laser treatments!

       

      Cleanse, hydrate appropriately and protect.

       

      Relax a little, but not with a cigarette.

       

      Feed your skin from the inside and if you want to add one ‘sophisticated’ step to your new Ultimate Routine, make it a telomere lengthening product, one that activates the enzyme telomerase and can actually make your skin younger. 

       

      The science makes sense, use it to both minimalise and increase the effectiveness of your skincare routine.

       

      Short-term you may not see a problem with this, however the times between your treatments will become shorter and shorter as you see your skin deteriorate faster due to the damage caused.

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      “We try and live up to this expectation that we should be making sure that everything is picture perfect!”

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      Tell me what your weekly work-juggle looks like?

      “There’s always lots to do for my wellness app – which is 10 years old now, and I’ve also got the wellness treats that I work on, they’re new. Creating content for social media is a huge part of my job now. Whether that be for my app, or for brands that I work with. Doing photoshoots and attending events are as well. That’s kind of my juggle on a weekly basis workwise. Sounds quite a lot when you say it out loud! [She laughs]”

      At what point in your career did you become a mum and how did you find that transition?

      “Do you know what, I was at a really nice point in my career actually. I was late twenties – which was actually a lot younger than I thought I was going to be. I’d had my app for a long time, it was going really well, and I had got to the point where I was really happy with it and loved everyone I was working with. I had done a few TV shows and then me and Ryan met whilst we were doing the Bear Grylls show – which was probably one of biggest challenges to date, apart from having children! [We laugh] And I was very happy, moving behind the scenes into the business world a little bit more, then I fell pregnant. Having my kids changed my business in a huge way! We had a very small part of the app dedicated to pre and post-natal and now that is a massive part of RWL. I can remember looking at it as soon as I had a baby and just realising immediately that the existing structured-part of the app for post-natal, needed to go. I was like, ‘There shouldn’t be any pressure to work out three times a week and do this and follow this etc. I want there to be loads of information on there that offers information on sleep, mental health, breast feeding. I want there to be support and a community within the app so that people can talk to each other and share in their journeys.’ We have Midwifes, Doctors on there, and that came from me googling things at 2am and getting overwhelmed with information. I wanted a platform that I could trust – so I created it! And now it’s a huge part of the business that I’m really passionate about, and I’m really proud of that.”

      What has been your career highlight to date?

      “Oh gosh, that is so hard! I think actually getting my fitness app to 10 years was a huge moment for me, because it’s not easy – running a business is not easy and there has been so many highs and lows over the last 10 years within the business, so reaching that point was a huge milestone. I think especially as people would think, ‘Oh it’s just another celebrity fitness fad’ – particularly in the early days and actually I’ve seen a lot of brands come and go but we’ve stuck it out and we’ve got years’ experience now. We didn’t always make the right decisions over the years, but you learn from that and I’m really proud of it. It’s not been easy, it never is but if you stick at something and you work hard then you can make a success of it. Also, to branch out into to doing the retreats abroad and bringing that community together was really important too.”

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      What has been the biggest challenge that you have had to overcome since having a business?

      “I think accepting that every decision that you make isn’t going to be the right one and being ok with that. Like at first when I made decisions that didn’t work out, I would find it really hard to accept that, but as I’ve moved forward I can reflect and go – ‘It didn’t work out for this reason and I learnt a lesson.’ And actually all the things that go wrong when you start a business are actually the best things to happen to you, because you’re better doing it then, rather than five years down the line because you learn so much. So yes, learning to accept the mistakes that you make and then turning them around into a positive, realising that everything that happened has happened for a reason.”

      What have you found the hardest thing about being a parent?

      “I really struggled with the early days. Maybe more so as Roman was my first and a lockdown baby. I think its because you’re going from what is a selfish life – we don’t realise it but we all do whatever it is that we want and you only have to think about yourself and then all of a sudden you’re have this amazing thing given to you and your totally responsible for and suddenly everything revolves around them. You suddenly think – ‘What was I doing with all my time before I had children!’ [We laugh in agreement] I just found it really tough. Also, Roman was quite poorly and so I would also say the worry of being a mum was something that I hadn’t prepared for, and I think that it probably the hardest thing about becoming a parent. You have that worry because you love them more than anything you’ve ever loved in your life before.” [Roman was diagnosed with an unsafe swallow.] I think that the fact people don’t talk enough about how hard it is – especially that first 6 months – is really tough. Even at 6 months I remember thinking with Roman, ‘God, this is still really hard and I’m not feeling completely fulfilled.’ And then you start thinking, ‘why am I not feeling fulfilled ‘just as a mum’. And actually, being a mum is the hardest job in the world and we crave adult conversations and work environments and I think that’s really normal and natural. I think you need good friends around you, like I remember ringing my friend one day and saying, ‘I’m really bored! I’m watching Peppa Pig on repeat, I’m washing and ironing.’ It just felt like Groundhog Day every day and actually I needed to make a decision to change that, to reach out for help; share more between me and Ryan; to arrange some childcare so that I had some time for me – whether that was in a work capacity or meeting friends for coffee, you need that. I don’t think that day in day out ‘just being a mum’ wouldn’t work for me.”

      Mum guilt is something that most people encounter in one way or another, what has your experience of Mum guilt and how have you dealt with it?

      “Hugely! I remember going to work, quite early on – because I had my own business you see so I didn’t get a maternity leave as such and also I really missed it, and I really wanted to get back in and see what was going on because I have to run a business, and I can remember going in for a day and feeling like an awful person because I wasn’t pining for my child. I felt guilty for not worrying and missing my child. I can remember thinking this is ridiculous. We’re so hard on ourselves, if my friend would have said that to me, I would have said, ‘Well that’s good, you’ve been to work, your brain has been focused on other things and then you’ll go back to your child thinking I can’t wait to see them!’ But I felt so guilty. I think just being busy – I’ll have a week where I’m really busy with work and I always feel like I need to let them stay up an extra hour before bed, because I feel guilty because I’ve not seen them as much as I would have wanted to. Unfortunately, I think – especially for us women – because I’m sure Dad guilt exists but you don’t really hear of that as much, but the phrase Mum guilt is used so much and I feel like whatever we do whether we’re a working mum, whether we stay at home, or whether we do a bit of both, whatever we do there’s always going to be that guilt and that pressure put on us. You can’t wait.”

      Do you think that pressure comes from ourselves, or societal pressures, or a bit of both?  

      “I think it’s society and us. I think society can be too quick to deem things either right or wrong when actually we all just need to support each other more. Even like childcare, everyone has an opinion on childcare, when actually a lot of the time the mums and the dads have to go back to work, they don’t have a choice they have to, so they need childcare. But even if its not down to needing to go back to work, its that they want to that’s ok. Having childcare in place is absolutely ok and actually my son absolutely loves nursery, and he does way-more in a day than I could ever think up for him!”

      Becoming a parent changes your life so dramatically that its can be easy to feel like you have lost of identity, did you experience that feeling at any point?

      “Oh 100% you do lose your identity. I can remember thinking one day, ‘When was the last time I put make up on, I’ve not got out of my joggers or pyjamas for weeks – and that was probably even worse than it would have been because of covid – but me and Ryan tried to make an effort so that I would feel like myself, so we would do date night every other Friday for example. We have this thing now that we call a mini reset, where we look at what is working and not working in our week, what can we do to make this situation better? For example, childcare – what’s working and what’s not working, and what can we do differently. It gives us an opportunity to say, well next week I need to make time for this – be that going for a walk on our own, or to get a coffee etc. We try and plan our weeks as much as possible because our lives are so crazy and we don’t have a 9-5 job, the mini resets really work for us, and it helps us to improve our lives. Everyday is a real juggle and when you are putting your children first, it can be hard to make sure you get what you need out of your week as well, there never seems to be enough hours in the day to fit everything in!”

      We usually ask what tips you would give to other parents, do you think that is your number tip?

      “Yes, I would say the mini resets, but just communication too – with your partner and people around you. That could be your mum or your mother-in-law, and you could say to them ‘this is what would be helpful for me this week. I think communication is so important and when you have kids you have to have that, you really do.”

      How easy have you found asking for help? We all put ourselves under so much pressure, sometimes reaching out for help can feel like admitting defeat – that we can’t do it all. How did you find that?

      “I think society puts so much pressure on us and you look on Instagram and you see everyone’s houses that supposedly look perfect and clean, I can tell you now, that there will be a pile of clothes behind the camera, and that it’s been placed at a perfectly placed angle to hide it! [We laugh] I’m guilty of doing it as well, because we try and live up to this expectation that we should be making sure that everything is picture perfect. I love that there is a change in social media though now because its real life is being normalised. There are people doing funny reals that are showing the reality of everyday scenarios that we can all relate to, and you find yourself going, ‘Oh my god, I’m so glad she thinks that as well, or she has to deal with that as well.’ I love that people are normalising the mundane and stressful parts of parenthood too. I think sometimes you wait until you’re at rock bottom before you ask for help, and it doesn’t need to be that way. I remember calling my mum once and admitting that I was really struggling and that I needed help, and of course she was straight around! I think it is really hard to ask for help though, especially when you’re a new mum.”

      Do you think the same applies in business too, that it can be hard to admit that you need help as we feel the need to portray success?

      “Yes, I think so. I’m 10 years into my business, it’s not been plain sailing, I’ve made lots of mistakes and that’s ok. Anyone who’s in business knows that it’s really, hard work and there’s going to be loads of things that come along to challenge you. But you shouldn’t feel embarrassed by that because you can grow from that and make better decisions going forward because you’ve learnt a lesson. It’s a bit like life in general, you have to grow certain things to grow, and it’s those things that make your stronger in business and as a person. And I couldn’t do it at the beginning but now I could for help if I needed it. Learning to delegate is a skill, to trust someone else to take care of things in your business can be really hard, but you learn that you aren’t always the best person to deal with everything and actually someone else can do a much better job, so you learn to trust them and let them get on with it.”

      Did you feel more pressure to ‘snap back’ after having a baby and being in the public eye, as well as having a fitness app, and how did you deal with that?

      “I think everyone presumed that I would be really small, really quickly but actually as soon as I had Roman, I didn’t care – I did not care! And I thought I really would, and I had put on 4 stone whilst I was pregnant and he was a big baby, but he wasn’t 4 stone, that would have been a hard if he was! [She laughs] But I thought I would really care but I didn’t. I had such little sleep, and I just was really kind to myself. I decided to just wait and then start to move once I felt ready, and I thought I would have had that 6 week check and be straight back to training, when actually I didn’t start training again until Roman was 6 months old. And I would always say to say anyone, please don’t put yourself under any pressure you’ve just done a huge thing. I mean obviously I would say please look after yourself in terms of eating good to make sure your well in all aspects, but if you’re not ready to train and you’re exhausted then it doesn’t matter. I’m a lot kinder to my body since having children. A healthy body is a lot more important than achieving this so-called view of perfection in any way possible! My biggest concern used to be my appearance, now it’s about making sure I’m as healthy as possibly so that I can be around for as long as possible for the kids. And being a healthy role for the children is massively important, and that goes past trying to encourage them to eat healthy food, it’s about how you talk about food and how you talk about your body in front of them. I would never talk about my body in negative way in front of my children. I don’t ever want Lilah to her me say, ‘I’m not going to eat that because I’m on a diet’ and so many people do without fully realising they are even doing it or understand the damage that can do to a child in the future. I think the best way to promote good health is by encouraging them to be active in a way that they enjoy.” 

      And to end our interview on positive, what do you love most about being a parent?

      “I think just all those proud moments. Like today when someone has said to me, ‘You should be so proud of Roman, he’s got amazing manners, he’s such a funny character’ and I started welling up. I think that being proud of them and watching them grow – there’s no feeling like it. As much as there is all the worry and all the other stuff, it’s all completely worth it! [She pauses] But I don’t want anymore! [We all laugh]”

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      Jon – “I know a lot of people who play that really enjoy it, and so I was curious because everyone keeps banging on about it! [He laughs] I wanted to see what it’s all about!”

      Sarah Jayne – “Yeah, I’ve seen it a lot on social media, because there is a lot of people that we know that come here. Like Nick Bianchi, who is fellow school parent and neighbour, and all the Thomas brothers are always here, and I know them, and so I kept seeing it, and it made me curious too.”

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      Do you think that Stan would enjoy playing Padel?

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      Sarah Jayne – “He’s played tennis at Summer Club at school, and he liked that, so I think he definitely would.”

      Jon – “He likes crazy golf too.”

      Sarah Jayne – “That’s another thing that appeals to us, as I think it could ne a nice little thing that we could do as a family. Especially as a father and son activity – just because Jon is sportier than I am – but you could come down and it would be a nice little activity to do at the weekend. I think kids can come and do lessons from 3 years too, and they recently had a little Halloween event on, so I think it’s definitely something that Stan would like”.

      “HAVING THE PERGOLA HAS REALLY INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE SPEND OUTSIDE TOGETHER AS A FAMILY”

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      Jon – “Yes, and I think getting out of the house and being outdoors is really important too. Away from technology.”

      Sarah Jayne – “It feels like a safe space here as well, you’re coming in, and you can sit with the kids, or if the kids are playing you can sit and have a coffee and watch the kids. And what I found with Padel is that it feels very community based. What the guys we’re saying before was that everyone ends up knowing everyone, so again if you were coming In with your family, then you suddenly become friends, and to have that added social aspect is really nice too. And you can enjoy it regardless of the weather which is great.”

      Talking of which, you have a LuxSol pergola and some of their outdoor living range at home don’t you? And you recently added a garden room at home, how has the additional space at home improved your family’s lifestyle and wellbeing?

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      Jon – “There’s no toys anywhere!” [They laugh]

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      Sarah Jayne – “Yes, there’s no Lego pieces to stand on! It’s lovely – I don’t actually do any work; I just go in to sit in there” [She laughs]

      Jon – “Yeah, I’m a bit jealous!” [We laugh]

      Jon – “And having the pergola has really increased the amount of time we spend outside together as a family, because even if it starts raining you stay outside – which is kind of a big thing in this country! It doesn’t mean pack up and go inside, sit I the kitchen and dining room again, it means if it’s not too cold you can just carry on regardless of the weather.”

      Sarah Jayne – “Yeah, you just get that indoor outdoor space and where we have ours, it’s just outside the dining room, so it means if we’re hosting and we have people over you can have the dining room doors open and then you’ve got your indoor seating area, your outdoor seating area, but it becomes one space”.

      Jon – “We love our garden, but you can’t sit out there much living in the UK, so it kind of gives you a little bit more time in a space that you actually enjoy being in.”

      Sarah Jayne – “And actually, when we’re sat under the pergola it’s a really nice view of the garden room and I find myself sitting there just admiring our garden space! [She laughs] Don’t you?” [She turns to Jon laughing].”

      Do you have a specific memory at home where the experience was enhanced by having your outdoor living space?

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      So, we had a barbeque, and then later, after we put Stan to bed, we went and sat back outside, which we never would have done normally. We put the little lights on that we have around the pergola, we had a glass of wine and we just sat there relaxing and chatting to each other. It was a lovely mild evening, and we wouldn’t have done that had we have not had this lovely comfy and tranquil area outside. Normally we would have just crashed onto the sofa and put the tele on”.

      Jon – “Yes, it was really nice. It kind of emulates that holiday vibe. Having a glass of wine outside in the garden is as close as you can get to feeling like you’re somewhere else in the world”.

      Do you think it’s important then that people are making their gardens more accessible and enjoyable to be in, in all weathers, and places like The Padel Club doing the same at their venue, given the value of being outdoors?

      Sarah Jayne“Yes, definitely, I mean look at us today, we’re all sat outside and it’s absolutely lashing it down!” [She laughs]

      Jon – “It’s like what we just said, having the pergola at home means we don’t have to go inside mid barbeque if it starts raining, and here it means we don’t have to pack up and go home – you can wait for the shower to pass; you can have a break.”

      Sarha Jayne – “It’s nice seeing the pergola here today actually, as we’re getting the side screens added to ours at home, and it’s nice to experience it in this weather, because you do feel even more sheltered and more of that inside outside feeling. It’s lovely!”

      Interview by @lolostubbs.author

      Images by @tompitfieldphotography

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      How do you try keep the ‘right balance’ between work and family life.

      Charlotte – “I think that I’ve tried to continue to achieve balance, by going to work, throwing everything into making it work whilst I’m there and focusing solely on that; but also, then going back home and doing the same there and throwing myself completely into family life. I think it’s important to protect that family time as well. For us it’s about protecting our weekend family time as much as we can, and if we are doing things at different times of the day, we just make sure that Ella-Rose is happy with the set up and we’re happy with the set up. I think you just have to try your best and plan everything with military precision really.” 

      People talk a lot about ‘mum guilt’ is it something that you’ve experienced and if so, how have you dealt with it?

      Charlotte – “I don’t think people should even use those words, ‘mum-guilt’ ‘parent-guilt’ what have you got to feel guilty about, you know? As long as you love your children and you have a plan in place for their care when you’re not there, who’s to say what’s the best set up for your child anyway! Children want to be loved, they want to know that people care for them, and that the people who are there with them are giving them quality time. I think if you’re happy as a family, and the work set up for you means that you then look forward to having the quality time with them, and you go lovely holidays with them and treasure that time with your children as well, then you have no reason to feel guilty.  

      It’s not the right set up for every family, and there are parents that are there 100% of the time with their children, and of course that’s perfectly fine if that’s what works for them, and they are happy. I think that because we just have Ella-Rose, we have always felt like it’s important that she goes and spends time with friends, that she goes and spends time with other family members, and she has done that right from being a young age. She’s been used to spending time with other people and she’s very happy in other people’s company. I know some children who are very clingy though because they’ve only spent time with their parents, and that’s just because that’s what they are used to. Again, that set up is completely fine if that’s what works for those parents, and those children, but for me I wanted to make sure that Ella-Rose was comfortable in lots of different environments, and that she was sociable & happy with going to see lots of different people, to experience lots of different places and I think by doing that it has really benefitted her.

      It’s all about building resilience in our children, but at the same and you want to make sure that they are comfortable in lots of different situations. They need that so that as they go through life, for example starting at a new school, or new job where they don’t know anyone, they have to be able to be comfortable in lots of different situations, so I think actually the earlier you can start that the better. As long as they know, where you are, when you’re coming back, that there is a plan in place that they’re happy with, then that’s the most important thing.”  

      Ella-Rose is watching you having a successful career, after following your dreams. Do you hope that it inspires Ella-Rose into believing anything is possible, so that she too follows her dreams?

      Charlotte – “Yes, absolutely! I think it’s really important to show our children that hard work pays off and that’s the message I want to give her. I want her to know that if there’s a dream job that you want to do, and you throw everything into making that work, if you’re determined and you don’t let things put you off, then you can achieve it. And whether that means getting the right qualifications, working long hours etc, if there’s a job that you really want to do then you must give your best shot!

      I think it’s important that you lead by example, and you show them that you can make it work. I want Ella-Rose to achieve her dreams, to work hard for them and to be happy. I’m not going to force her into any particular career, I just want her to be happy with the path that she chooses. I think in my mind anyway it’s about pushing yourself, challenging yourself and making sure that you have new experiences, new adventures and making sure that life doesn’t get boring!”

      What has been the most challenge time during your career and how did you overcome it?

      Charlotte – “I lost my Dad a month before I gave birth to Ella-Rose. And I needed to go back to work after a certain amount of time, so I went back to work four months after having Ella-Rose. I kind of needed that structure back in my life, but emotionally I was still kind of all over the place, as I think I had delayed grieving for my Dad because I was having Ella-Rose. I wanted to be all happy and smiley for her, and when I was pregnant, and my Dad had died, I didn’t want to her to feel that sadness, so I tried to postpone it – but of course that was always going to come back at some point! So, I was on a bit of an emotional roller-coaster for quite some time afterwards I think. The interesting thing about my job is however you’re feeling in the morning, being on breakfast television you have to have a smile on your face, you have to be bright eyed and bushy tailed, and you know sometimes it’s the hardest thing in the world to do when you’re feeling sad – to put a smile on your face. There are other times I think you can kind of make yourself feel a bit better, because you think ‘I’m getting up, I’m going to work, I’m keeping it all together, I still manage to smile!’ And I think you just have to keep thinking – this will pass. This isn’t going to last forever. I just need to keep going, one day at a time, one foot in front of the other! And I think when you are going through these times, when things are really tough, or they feel insurmountable, you just have to try and think. ‘Okay, don’t panic, let’s just what tomorrow brings’, but it will pass. It’s hard but sometimes you have to just ride it out and keep doing those things that day by day make you feel a little better. Whether that’s being with people you love, going out and getting some exercise, taking a bit of time to do those things to put a smile on your face – a real smile on your face. You have to be thankful for the things you have on a daily basis as well and realise that those are the things that will get you through it.”

      What has been the highlight of your career to date?

      Charlotte – “There’s been a lot of things, I’ve interviewed so many amazing people that I feel so lucky to have met, including Oprah – who is obviously amazing at interviews, so that was equally a bit scary! [she laughs] But I think for me the highlight of my career has to be when got I asked to take part in the Bradley Copper film Burnt. It is such a highlight for me, and I’ll never forget the day that a Hollywood Film crew came into the studio, and I was the breakfast TV presenter interviewing Bradley Cooper, it absolutely blew my mind! I’d read the script and learnt script, and we sat there, and we had filmed it all and then the director came over and whispered something in Bradley Coopers ear. I didn’t really know what was going on, and then they said ‘That was all great, everything was spot on, but we’re just going to do one more take as we just want to try something a little bit different’. And then Bradley just went completely off script and pretended that everything was going wrong and was looking at the wrong camera and I was just thinking, what is going on! This wasn’t in the script! [she laughs] But, I just went along with it and that’s the take that they used, but I think they really wanted that whole vibe, as his character was supposed to be a really grumpy chef, who kicked up a fuss about everything. So, for me being in Hollywood film like that, and I guess it really hit home where I was at in my career. I got invited to the premiere, which was amazing! And I was sat on an aeroplane one day, and the person in front of me was watching the film and my face popped up and I couldn’t believe, (well I still can’t believe) that I’ve been in that film, and I felt like tapping him on the shoulder and saying, “That’s me!” [she laughs] That was a real pinch-me moment.

      My career has been a bit crazy, but I wouldn’t swap it for the world – even with the 2.45am starts!”

      Do you have any standout ‘BROOD Moments’ where the juggle has led to a bit of a ‘parent fail’?

      Charlotte “Oh, there’s so many, but there’s a recent one where it was one of these days at school where you’ve got to dress up in a themed outfit, and I forgotten that she had to dress up in toga. But I reassured her it was fine, because essentially a toga was the same as a bed sheet, so I told her we’d make it work and we’ll just wrap one around her and then tie it with like curtain tie or something. And I thought it looked pretty good, but she was not convinced at all, she said it just looked like a bed sheet. [smiling] So, I was saying to her, well traditionally that’s how they looked. But what I hadn’t really envisaged was that a lot of the other parents would have gotten special outfits – that were not bedsheets! And there was a moment of mortification when I waved her off and she was walking alongside someone wearing a full-on medusa outfit, and all of these other fancy outfits and I could see this bedsheet slipping down already and I just thought ‘No, that was a bit of fail!’ So, I felt disappointed on her behalf, and I felt disappointed that, that had happened. However, you always have to see the positives in these things, and I thought, well that’s going to build a lot of resilience that one! [she laughs] The thing is, they do have to get used to things not quite going to plan and just making the best of it. It’s happened to all of us over the years. Hopefully it won’t scar her and she’s not still talking about it in 20 years’ time – “Mum, I remember that day you sent me to school in a bedsheet that was around my ankles before I had even got in!” [she laughs] Luckily, I had made her wear shorts and t-shirt underneath too!”

      What advice would you give to someone who is following their career dreams, whilst juggling parenthood?

      Charlotte – “Don’t aim for perfection. I don’t think it’s healthy to strive for perfection in everything, because then it’s just an unattainable standard. So, I think you have to be realistic. Even if you didn’t do anything else in life, but look after your children and pack for them, sort for them, cook for them, that’s not always healthy either, so I think it’s just about making sure that you try get balance right. Things aren’t always going to go to plan, but that’s life. You do have to give your children that message too, along with the tools to be able to deal with it. To help them look for the lessons when things go wrong, how to learn from it and then we move on.

      I would also say don’t look at others and assume that they’ve got it all figured out all of the time – because they won’t have! That’s just the front that everyone likes to put out for public perception, because everyone has got the same juggle, the same struggles, the same balancing act going on. So never compare yourself to someone else, you’ve just got to make sure that as long as your children are happy and healthy that’s all you need, that’s all you can wish for!”

      Charlotte Hawkins
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      HELEN SKELTON

      Inspirational Mum of three, Helen Skelton, is one of Britain’s best-loved Television presenters. Helen started her presenting career at Newsround before landing a dream role at Blue Peter, where she completed numerous extreme challenges for charity. Incredibly Helen has kayaked over 2,000 miles along the Amazon River, and cycled 500 miles to the South Pole, both for Sport Relief. Her amazing career has included many highlights including meeting the iconic late Queen Elizabeth II. Not one to shy away from a challenge, last year she took what was probably her hardest yet, as she joined BBC’s Strictly Come Dancing Class of 2023; whilst juggling life as a single mum, looking after her 3 young children, Ernie, Louis and Elsie.

       

      What tips would you give other working parents?

      Oh, I’ve got loads of tips – I’m on a journey at the moment. Firstly, lower the standards! I think unfollow people who don’t have a similar life to you. For example, if you’re a working mum, don’t follow a mum who doesn’t work, follow someone who is doing the juggle. Or if you don’t work, follow someone who doesn’t work, because I think you if you compare apples to pears yours will never be as good. I’ve been given lots of tips myself lately, including find companies that will deliver healthy meals – like meals on wheels but for parents. Then that takes the pressure off grabbing something naff for yourself, you can get them pre ordered just a couple of times a week and the whole family has got a healthy home cooked meal. Just make life easier for yourself. Another one is, have a notepad by the bed because every has them things where they wake up in the night where they are like ‘oh s&*t they need a yellow t-shirt for tomorrow’. I also think delegate stuff in your life that you don’t need to do yourself. Like I hate cleaning, so I got a cleaner. I felt really bad about it at first, I felt really middle-class, and I would tidy up before they came, but then the lady said to me ‘why are you doing that, you are paying me to do this?’ Oh, and don’t buy clothes that you need to iron! Again, why are you doing that to yourself. And finally, I have a present cupboard because there is always a party that you have forgotten, or you haven’t got time to go to B&M before you go. And a distraction box is always good too when you’ve got multiple children. What do you mean by a distraction box? Well, I would always keep a little box on the side, I’ve done this from Louis being born. I will put a couple of snacks in that he would like, a couple of books, or some little cheap toys in there. So then if you’re feeding or changing the baby and your older one wants you too and you can say ‘Go and get something from your box!’ I think that’s it!

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      James Bye & Victoria Bye

      Parents of four, Actor James, and Blogger Victoria Bye, have had a whirlwind few years, as their children came along at the same time as their careers started to soar. Having relocated from London to Cheshire just before they had their first child, James then got the part as Martin Fowler in one Britain’s best loved soaps – Eastenders. Consequently they made the decision to move back down south, so that James wouldn’t spend the majority of the week separated from his family. The couple have since welcomed another three boys to their brood over the years, with the newest addition arriving only in the summer of 2023. James took part in the 2022 Strictly Come Dancing. 

      We had the pleasure of chatting to the lovely couple in 2023, about how their lives have changed over the last few years, how they juggle everything and their ambitions for the future.

      What tips would you give to other parents who are juggling busy career schedules alongside bringing up their family?

      James – “I think what really helps us during really busy times is we are very fortunate that we have a really amazing group of friends, and we all help each other out. I think you have to find the courage to reach out and ask for help, and once you start doing that, you can all work together. So, I definitely think that’s a really important tip – don’t be afraid to ask for help – especially reach out to those closest to you.

      Victoria – “Yes, totally. And for me in terms of the family side of things, when you do get those moments together, to remember to put your work down, and be present. At the end of the day, work is just a job, it’s replaceable, family isn’t.”

      REBECCA ADLINGTON

      Rebecca Adlington OBE is undoubtedly the greatest female swimmer that Great Britain has ever produced, and one of the greatest GB swimmers of all time, not only because she is a multiple Olympic, World, Commonwealth and European medallist but she also broke the World Record in the 800m freestyle in 2008 at the Olympic Games in Beijing ; a record that was 19 years old, the same age Rebecca was in Beijing. 

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      “I think being organised is definitely something that I need to be in order to stay sane – I’m a bit like Monica in friends!” [We laugh] “For instance with the planner that I do on a Sunday, I use different coloured pens, and we stick that on the fridge! We have an online diary too and that is also colour coordinated, and I make sure everything goes in that diary. So I am very organised. I think there is so much going on each week that it’s one of those things that really helps us and the kids to have that reference. I think that really helped me with that transition of being back at work, so it eases my anxiety too and gives me that peace of mind that the kids aren’t going to miss anything. It also saves me time as I’m not checking in with Andy every two minutes like I was when I first came back to work! Which obviously caused a bit of friction too with Andy, because I wasn’t used to letting go so I think having that system in place has worked really well for us.”

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      Charlie Condou

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      “I think my advice would be don’t take advice from anyone, find your own way. Everyone thinks that they know the right way how to be a parent, but everyone finds it out for themselves. And from a co-parenting point of view, the most important thing you can do is communicate properly, whether that’s talking about how things will work, logistics, making sure you do it with someone who has the same values and morals, and ideas about bringing up kids. And also, if something is irritating you, just get it out and just say it. That’s what us three do, don’t get me wrong it’s not easy but then it’s done, and we can deal with it. Because if you don’t speak up, these things just fester and before you know you’re screaming at somebody, about something so small! It’s much better for everyone when you can communicate well, and you move on.”

      EMMA Neville

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      What advice would you give to the BROOD readers who are parents of teenagers?

      “I would say just listen to them and try and just keep conversations going. I know that can sometimes be difficult, but just asking how they are is a good start. I also think a big thing for us, as parents, to make sure we own up to our own mistakes and learn to say sorry, because when we’re in the heat of the moment and we’re stressing at them and complaining, sometimes just saying ‘I’m really sorry about this morning, I wasn’t in a good place, and I was rushing and I shouldn’t have stressed at you’ that can make a big difference. Sometimes we put a lot on them, especially when I think about the morning chaos and when parents get stressed, it makes you wonder does your child leave the house or the car and take that stress and negativity into their school day?  So, I think holding your hands up and owning your mistakes is very important. Children can read you; they know when you’re not yourself, so being open with them can put their mind at ease that it’s not on them. Just letting them know that we’re not perfect either. That it is ok to not be ok.”

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      BROOKE VINCENT

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      “If there are any tips out there you need to tell me because my life is just like a circus!” We all laugh and chat about life within our own circus’.   “I think even though it’s something I struggle with myself, I feel like I’m constantly learning, but you shouldn’t expect too much from yourself. You need to remind yourself just what good job you’re doing. That’s why I’ve included reminders in my planners that ‘you are doing your best’, as I think it’s so important for us to remember that.”

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      Mike Toolan

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      Catherine has recently finished filming another drama for ITV and was crowned Winner of All Star Musicals 2021. Cath’s other huge passion in life is Food! After study nutrition on maternity leave with her first child- Caths enthusiasm for food grew. Especially nutritious, budget friendly, tasty family meals. We’re thrilled to bits to have Cath join us and share her knowledge and passion! You’re in for a treat with Auntie Caths recipes!

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      AUNTIE CATH’S EASY ENERGY-BOOSTING FLAPJACKS

      Ingredients
      3 large bananas
      175 g dates chopped
      180 g oats
      75 g butter melted
      1 tsp ground mixed spice
      1 pinch salt

       

      Instructions
      Preheat oven to 180c/Gas 4
      Mash bananas in a bowl (get your hands in there, it’s strangely satisfying)
      Stir in everything else, mix it up and let it stand for 15 minutes
      In the meantime, grease an 8″ square baking tray
      Bake for 20 minutes or until golden brown on top
      Take out of the oven, let cool and then enjoy a little piece of damn healthy heaven!

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      You’ve had and still have such a successful career, how have you managed to juggle that alongside being a mum?

      “Well, I’ve never not had kids really, ever since meeting my partner, Steve; he already had two children when we got together – my step children Kristabel and Curtis – they were 7 and 9 when I first met them, they are now 30 and 29 – which is crazy! And our boys, the twins, Victor and Louie, are 12 years old. 

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